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I've been here on DA for around 5 1/2 years now, and for the first 4 years I really didn't even use it.  I posted some sketches and seemed like nobody was paying attention...

But that's quite all right.  I'm not at all externally focused and I know that what others think (especially on the internet, on social networking sites) have absolutely no effect on what I choose to do or how I choose to do it.  So you may ask, "why are you even on here?", and that is a good question.  The reason I post what I do is a clear signal to the "universe" (for the lack of a better term) that this is what I have chosen to do.  It's almost irrelevant what my viewers think of what I am doing because I'm not doing it for them.  But that makes me sound unfriendly..  If you like it, good.  If you don't like it, good.  If you get rude or obnoxious or hypocritical, well that's annoying a little bit:)

So during this last 12 to 15 months I've been posting nude photos and my views have gone from 7000 to 110000.  The categories don't let me choose just "nude", it makes me choose "artistic nude", but whether it's artistic or not in somebody's idea of categories does not matter even a little bit.  But to some of my visitors that seems to be an issue.  I also get a lot of "this is porn".  And that is really what I'd like to talk about.

I think there is probably a clear indication when something is definitely porn; penetration, oral, erections, insertions, dildos, etc.  Also  maybe the fact that they are on commercial pay sites promoting their content as porn, or even the free sites which exist to give samples that drive paying customers.  DA is clearly not one of those places, so if the photos comply with DA policies against porn, it's a little more difficult (it seems for some) to distinguish what is what.  I've seen others discuss this topic and some will point to examples and make references, but let me make this simple for you.

You live in a world of subjective reality.  If you think it's porn, you are right.  If you think it's art, you are right.

For example, when most of us look at cute little 5-year old children, we see kids; noisy dirty energetic lovable kids.  When a pedophile looks at the same kids, he may see sexual objects.  In his reality, he is right, regardless of what the rest of us think.  And you won't convince him otherwise.

So, for you sexually frustrated porn searchers coming here filling up your spank-bank, please stop coming to my page with your penis in your hand and we can keep my page porn-free!!

Thank you:)
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:icongaucho-dc:
Thank you !, thank you for making it clear that someone nude form is not porn, that art is not porn to fools so easily offended, intolerant and nude phobic that want  Michelangelo's David wearing shorts !!!
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ARTIST4569 Mar 18, 2014  New member Professional Traditional Artist
just because of this journal post i chose to watch your work.  im an artist ( duuu) lol. i have a focus on the female form. the curves, shadows the eyes......sorry got side tracked.  rock on and keep up the awesome work. hell with what otyhers think your right its for your enjoyment. thsats what art is all about.


rock on
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malcite Mar 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I started out that way, using it as a cheap free "porn" site back in the days, but luckily I have grown up since then. Actually I grew into the images in the way that they made me see lights, shades, contrast, color. basically anything that is related to making a photo good.

As for what qualifies as porn, you are right on some points (i think erections are allowed on dA as long as its not being used :P )

But at the same time, we are all human beings here and subject to the same primal urges we all (normally) should feel. The difference is if we choose to control it or not.

All the spunk monkeys that drop by here, for me its fine if they hang around, but like you, I hate seeing "this is porn", and to all the other sly comments that appear (I don't have any images that would provoke such a comment) well, if they visit the site and use it. I think that can be ok, the problem is the comments. So if they could just stop doing that then it would be fine also. Don't you think so?
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scriptsensei Mar 14, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes, I agree.  I don't care what kind of reactions people get from the images if they want to discuss it in an open and intelligent way, but when some tool comes by and declares that something is porn it's like they don't even see that there may be hundreds of others who don't necessarily agree, and only their opinion matters.  I don't believe that they're mature enough or sophisticated enough to understand that they are declaring something about themselves and not the image they are looking at.
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malcite Mar 15, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Or they have a pretty twisted sense of double standards and don't want to let other people do what they want to do, create what they want to create and share it. They want to keep it for themselves.
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SavoEr Mar 2, 2014  Student General Artist
I completely agree with you! Always, tits, and asses sold products. :lol: Airborne 
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ThatsMrD Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I think my writing is porn. Erotica sounds too safe and a bit pretentious.
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peterjdejesus Dec 24, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
This, right here, is why you have my support.  Awesome post sensei.  Spoken with true intelligence.   I must be careful of my words though.  I don't want to imply that anyone reading this with a different perspective on things might take calling you intelligent as a way of saying their idiots for viewing things differently.   :)   Even if the implication is followed by a sentence saying they just might be, I don't want to lead people to think that their opinion doesn't count, even though it is only their point of view if they beg to differ.  

Thanks for sharing you're great "photography"... there, that should narrow things down for the feeble minded, even though it's not a simple category.
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